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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #101 on: November 04, 2009, 03:20:54 PM »
I know they did. And the press wants to sell papers. Just because they do it doesn't really make it a "good thing" to do for Kate. For those who remember Diana, it does Kate a disservice IMO because Diana will always come out ahead. Kate is not the reincarnation of Diana no matter how the press want it.
And it's a bit creepy for William for the press to depict his possible bride to be as his mother's clone.

It would be comparable for Charles to have met Lady Gwendolyn who loved corgis, wore outfits like the Queen, loved racehorses and the press got all excited that Lady Gwen was "just like" the Queen. Charles Mum and Lady Gwen was the Queen all over again.. I think with the Diana comparison and Kate we are in the same weird area.
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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #102 on: November 04, 2009, 03:34:35 PM »
More power to her then, no Lady, Royal or whatever title! Just plain Jane girlfriend doing charity. I really am glad she's involved for a charity that benefits seriously and terminally ill children in the UK. 

I'm sure William is really proud of her....She has hopefully many more years to benefit other charities.
It's normal for men to admire traits in a woman who remind them of those of their mothers.
One of my sons described his fiancee to me, 'She plays piano just like you Mum and she loves Church and tennis too.' Of course there are lots of differences as well there should be.
Again, Kate is not in a competition with anyone. She is her own person. :kate:
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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #103 on: November 04, 2009, 03:38:15 PM »
Yes, it can be for "some" traits. But I have a sense that the press wants Kate to be a "clone" of Diana with pics of them in similar outfits etc etc. I think the comparisons can go overboard. kate is not a clone of Diana nor a reincarnation. I don't think Wills wants a replica of his mother as his wife.  William for that matter though he has his mother's genes will never be a clone of his mother either. There was one Diana.

If Kate were Diana's daughter I could see the comparisons to a degree. But I think no daughter should live her life trying to do exactly as her mother did or be "just like her."
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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #104 on: November 04, 2009, 03:46:07 PM »
Actually 1 recent article and our poster friend Lucy posting a 1 liner of Di's brother is not overboard in my eyes.  (Sandy, perhaps you went overboard with it? Don't know and really whatever  :sigh: )

But mixed reactions on Kate's charity happens, which I don't care really if she was self promoting, emulating D, the seriously and terminally ill children benefited !
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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #105 on: November 04, 2009, 03:49:30 PM »
What about the People Magazine article a few years ago with the side by side pics of Kate and Diana in "similar outfits." This was published a few years ago! Laughably they even had a feature about how similar they were in their "see through" outfits, Diana with her legs showing under her skirt and Kate in the see through dress. I think that's going overboard! Big time.
 

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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #106 on: November 04, 2009, 03:52:39 PM »
Perhaps someone will open a thread about Diana/Kate. I really wish this charity thread (positive) doesn't get locked down again due to ______________(fill in the blank).   :o

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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #107 on: November 04, 2009, 03:53:41 PM »
I think that's been done already. On different threads of course and under other names.
 

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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #108 on: November 04, 2009, 03:56:28 PM »
I don't know Sandy, but why don't we just agree to disagree (related to Diana, Lucy's post, debate and opinions in this forum), it get's out of topic and I want to follow recomendation on post no. 75.

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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #109 on: November 04, 2009, 06:21:41 PM »
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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #110 on: November 04, 2009, 06:48:59 PM »
What about the People Magazine article a few years ago with the side by side pics of Kate and Diana in "similar outfits." This was published a few years ago! Laughably they even had a feature about how similar they were in their "see through" outfits, Diana with her legs showing under her skirt and Kate in the see through dress. I think that's going overboard! Big time.

Good post Sandy.  :thumbsup:  I agree, I believe that IF W marries Kate then the press in order to generate sales will inevitably draw comparisons.  As for Kate's charity work now, as I said before I would never decry anybody's good works, but I don't believe it is comparable to anything Diana did or what other members of the RF are doing.  Neither does this charity work induce me to believe that this makes Kate eligible to marry into the RF.

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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #111 on: November 04, 2009, 07:14:38 PM »
Absolutely Hale....no one seriously compares Diana to anyone to any degree....having some things in common happens with most everyone.
I don't know why Kate's charity work has to be measured by what Diana accomplished and she is always being called 'no Mother Theresa'...no one was another Mother Teresa or Albert Sweitzer or Ghandi or Bill Gates et al.

Praising Kate Middelton is not stealing anyone else's glory despite all the ridicule and belittlement aimed toward Miss Middleton because she is still single amd not royal, neither of which has any bearing on her charity work....but who can apparently do nothing well enough to please some.

Always Sophie was compared to Diana.....someday people will compare other women to Kate ( some do now )....what's the harm as long as they don't get malicious with it.


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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #112 on: November 04, 2009, 07:19:28 PM »
Nothing wrong with being non royal and single. There is no belittlement of Kate. I said what she does is good but IMO she has yet to really prove herself as a potential "great" charity worker. As far as I know Sophie was compared to Diana because for a time she had the same hairdo but nothing "deeper" than the hairstyle was ever compared.
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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #113 on: November 04, 2009, 07:35:42 PM »
And when she gets to the point of a potential great charity worker...something new will come to our occurrence.  :D

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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #114 on: November 04, 2009, 07:44:57 PM »
It's all potential now.
 

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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #115 on: November 04, 2009, 08:02:21 PM »
I think kate doing charity is good for her personally , professionally and in case she become a royal in the future.
the people are benefited from this cahrity are also a very good thing we can tell.
But i think about the reasons of her making charity.Wich makes me automatically keep things with a bit of doubt...
Ok she have done some charity when she was younger...but to me it doesnt prove anything about her personal behaviour...so she did some charity while younger...no big news..i did..i know a lot of people who did it too and honestlly i see nothing important about her personal behaviour when it comes to it...
The fact that for the least years she have been publiclly envolved with this (even sayd and for some proved that she has been doing it from her young ages..)just make me doubt even more the meaning of this hole charity thing shes been doing..
Is it for changing her image that maybe some people adviced her about making her generosity public???
Is it a marketing plan from the RF to prepare the field=public..for a future announcement???
Who knows...
I never sayd that her charity is something bad..actually is great!
I never sayd that she was a bad person either..i think shes a very genuine, down to earth and simple person with good feeling and etc...
But i do have doubts about this sudden change in her image and behaviours..coz i dont know the reasons for all this..and obviouslly to me whatever the reason she has for doing or not such things is completlly normal and no i will not say shes jesus just because she throw some parties for charitys...
I think shes a good person and generous..so am i!
And i dont wanna sound cinical..but i guess someone sayd that and i think the same..that we (normal people) expects nthing more from the rich ones to donate theyre money, time and help.....
So to me honestlly for more great and amazing that the idea sounds...its nothing more than "another" charity made by a rich person with conexions and period.
I say this for the person doing it....obviousllly for those who receive the help might think diferent.
And to be honest this is not the type of charity i think is cool...i mean nothing but a party to promote kate,the familly and the company.
They dont really have a cause ..honestlly..if there is some i havent give much atention as they are not focusing very much on it..or at least it havent been showed..as people are much more worryed about judging kates hair, and her moms dress..sthis sort of thing..
I think thats why one thing should not kix with other..u wanna do charity..do it.But if ure not a celebrity keep it annymous..or the results might always end up being a little exagerated!
Thats one reason why i think harrys charity with the lesotho is one of the most genious ones..because even being who he is..he made things to keep peoples interests on the charity and not in him.
I think the fact kate is who she is takes makes her gain a lot of atention in everyhtiong she decides to promote..but also sometimes makes some people have no credibility about the reasons why she is doing...
I think slowlly...she will make people understand her goal..whatever it is...
Time shows everyhting..and if people are right or wrong..some will say i told u so and others will apologise..coz time always shows us in the future what we cant see now!
My only doubt about her charity is the reason why shes doing it..just this!
But i guess only time will show us the real reasons.....so lets wait...
Thats my opinions, anyway....

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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #116 on: November 04, 2009, 08:21:40 PM »
Apparently you just proved to me that there are people who don't care in reading about the charity event held in London, which was thoroughly described; afternoon event for children and the evening dinner auction for adults, plus the summer children's parties at the hospitals or any/all of the links posted in the locked thread and recaped in this thread.

Sad!

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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #117 on: November 04, 2009, 09:09:28 PM »
What it proves or not to u dont necessarilly matters to me wannabe, with all the respect!
Ure the least person i would expect to agree with me in anyhting..Its funny that u actually responded to it..anyway...
i dont really care for charitys at all...nope, sorry!Especially gala nights like this one!I dont have to play the generous soul and say i do when i dont..besides that wasnt what was on my post...but what u got from it...as u say always..perhaps another twist???Hum...maybe!
Thats wasnt the point i tryed to get with my post...but anyway i think there are ways and ways of being generous..and that doesnt mean exactlly donating money.
Sometimes teach a poor child to or an old one who knows, someone with limitaed finatial resources.... to read.Or maybe teach something that they can use for theyre future as a profession or something..values, to me at least, than donating them money.
Feeding people is not exactlly giving them something,really.U have to give people the oportunitty of being themselves and living by themselves.To give everyhting in theyre hands might seem like the perfect thing to do....but after some time..what will u do????
the thing im trying to say is that charitys dont make miracles.If they did the world would be such a diferent place...
people have to put theyre hands over there and make things happen..it englobes a lot of time and dedication...and some money eventually...but the most important thing in those case is not always the money involved but the generosity from the ones who does it..like volunteer working...have ever heard about????Charity to me anyway..is about sueting the shirt...leaving ure frined whil theyre taking sun in the club and go give english classes to people who have not the finatial resoruces to pay for it..but are hungry for learing things.Is about putting ure time and strengh into something...wihtout thinking about the benefits in retunr..is not only putting a coin in the macdonalds while u buy ure sandwich coz..yeah ure so generous for doing it...and ot me it definatelly have anyhting to deal with uwearing a beautiful dress and pose for cameras as ure saying: "hey im a good person as im donating money for those people..besides im rich and it wont mean a thing to me"
If u asked me if i have made some donations ill say yes of course!charity: yep...i guess...a couple of times i did spend my time teaching people to read and sort of things..but if i have dressed a 1,00 dollars dress and smile the whole night away to promote a cause?? i havent..yet!I dont think its wrong..i just think it doesnt prove ure into the charity uer promoting at all..coz there are no proofs of ure involvement..personal envolvement...and yes..ure not going to be a godnes only for doing it..as millions of people does the same!
U see thats the point im trying to get..i gues im supose to consider myself much more generous than those people coz last night i was so hungry and i saw a children in the streets and decided ot give him my money for the bus.So then he could have a sandwich and i could lost some weght walking home.
To me thats much more generoty than throwig events.
Coz i needed the money and even though i gave the children the money, for generositi???for feeling better???whatever..i need to get the bus to get home..but i prefer to walk instead of seeing a child hungry!
Thats the point to me.....
kates charity anyway..have nothing to deal with misery people or anyhting..it has to deal..for the least i read about..with terminal childrens in hospitals and obviouslly is a diferent case and the type of charity that i consider to be very nice...as i sayd before...the only thing i dont agree with is the hole circus people does around it for the fact kate was the one who made it...and that people try to tuirn a simple action and situation into something overwhelming..when its something a lot of péople does every day.
it has nothing to deal with the charity itself!
If u passed the time reading things as they are and not only trying to mold them into what fits ure words better, maybe u would get it!but as u said u already have ure " sad" perception about it..even not having anyhting bad written about the charity...



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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #118 on: November 04, 2009, 09:39:14 PM »
Apparently you just proved to me that there are people who don't care in reading about the charity event held in London, which was thoroughly described; afternoon event for children and the evening dinner auction for adults, plus the summer children's parties at the hospitals or any/all of the links posted in the locked thread and recaped in this thread.

Sad!



As Vivienne mentioned the other day, you can come up with ten links to illustrate what you post and half the time, they don't get read. It's easier to just bash the daylights out of Kate for 'pretend' charity and all that rot. Once it's repeated enough that she never really does any charity, 25 people will swear to it.




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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #119 on: November 04, 2009, 09:59:43 PM »
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As Vivienne mentioned the other day, you can come up with ten links to illustrate what you post and half the time, they don't get read.

Exactlly Lucy..sometimes we dont read thats why we make up things out off our minds...
Thats exactlly what i was  saying wannbe that if she actually have readed my post she wouldnt come to this conclusion..unless shes blind or something...My opinions anyway about the reasons for kate doing charity or no..are personals and not founded in links anyway..thats one of the reasons i dont need to look at links to form my opinions...coz they are personal!
That kate does charity is one thing.Thats is a good thing is one thing.
but if people will like or not is about personal views...and as u said no matter how many links people provides opinions are opinions and facts are facts.
theyre completlly diferent things  :thumbsup:
All the times i spoke about kate CHARITY i sayd i was in agreemt with the cause and that i though it was cool!
All the rest of the references about the whys shes doing it, or if i like ot not the way she DID it or the type of charitys i enjoy and the ones i dont..are merelly my personal views of the facts...not the facts themselves...


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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #120 on: November 04, 2009, 11:24:46 PM »
You said it was a party, gala, and it wasn't.

The evening was a dinner auction for the adults where Starlight Foundation and the charity they lend to benefits.

Just correcting and still wishing people would read thoroughly.  A party, a gala is totally different from a dinner and auction. That's all.

And yes Lucy, I agree, people don't read the links and i.e. 25 swear it was a party, then there you go.

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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #121 on: November 05, 2009, 12:06:08 AM »
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The evening was a dinner auction for the adults where Starlight Foundation and the charity they lend to benefits.

Dinner auction to me is = party for businnes people to meet and talk about a subject..in this case about the charity.
And i dont think the party or dinner auction as u prefer or even gala night was a bad thing.
If u read posters instead of bashing them or turning them in what wish them to be u would notice that i havent sayd abyhting against the "gala night" besides it was not my thing, instead as it was for a good cause.I though it was cool.But dont agree with the meaning of charity is about partys, or dinners or maybe gala nights!
The thing i really do not agree with is with the whole exposition of the charity and the hole exposition of kate image.As i dont agree with it and obviouslly is very contraditory as she seems to be keeping a "low profile"..so i guess she keeps a low profile foir everyhting else..besides exposing herself as a good soul at charitys.And thats not me making alegations..but questinating this contraditory and very constant fact!!!!Thats my point..yet its my personal view and when i write my post i was just trying to keep myself in topic..as the above posts were first abut kate,then about x chelsy, and the about kate x diana..so i genuinilly and honstlly gave my opinion.
Its ure right to agree or disagree..but not to judge peoples opinions bad or sad because u believe in something that others might not believe!
U say that people dont read things before comenting or that they dont pay atention to the links explaining why we must believe that kate is the new madre tereza....and then u right a comment telling that i dont care about charity and will never think that kates charity is a good thing..coz i actually dont read the posts or view the links..when all i said is that besides i have doubts about the reason for her to do it..i actually agree with it..and hey im not really into it, not the way they do it (roayls and etc) but i think is nioce of her to do it.
But do u pay atention to what people say..whenever they are not necessailly in agreement with ure thoughts???Otherwise why would u come to this conclusion about A becoming Z..when its there writen?i guess u might misunderstood what i said..but i dont think so..it wouldnt be the first time that u get only what u think it is and not exactlly what it is!!!!

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Just correcting and still wishing people would read thoroughly.
Well said, U should include ureself on this wish as well then..

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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #122 on: November 05, 2009, 12:07:17 PM »
IDBY...Party Pieces is into the Christmas season mood already and most likely preparing the packages to be sent out to the hospices/hospitals...Starlight you rock!

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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #123 on: November 05, 2009, 03:59:09 PM »
It would be smashing if our Wills popped round to the Children's Wards as well!! HRH Santa Claus!! :jester:
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Re: Kate Middleton and the Starlight Foundation
« Reply #124 on: November 05, 2009, 04:47:46 PM »
I think it goes without saying that Kate does charity...good for her...and according to everyone's posts regarding those more fortunate than others, that is what she and her family should do. Or is what she does better than people and celebrities who are rich and therefore obliged to do for others?  Just checking. 

I say good for her and good for her family and let's move on already.  Conversation about Starlight Foundation should be about the children and not about what Kate is doing to earn her stripes as a potential royal.